What trailer?

Added the link.

I still honestly hope we get Carbon back one day....the graphics looked so sharp and elegant, the power behind it...... even the assets like the fighter and LAV looked incredible.

DONT WORRY GUYS!!

CCP probobly has all the good old stuff stored on a computer somewhere. Why would they delete all that good stuff that was in the trailer????

Dude do you remember the accurate suspension that LAV used to display? That looked incredible....as opposed to how them flip now......

Ah, this situation reminds me of the same ordeal that Bungie faced during the pre-release of Halo 2. Well, long story short, Bungie released a trailer of Halo 2 during E3 that showcased a level of graphics and gameplay that Bungie did not yet establish with the game, and what happened was that Halo 2 was rushed out with large chunks of the game butchered.

Meanwhile, Bungie's trailer was done on the assumption that the R&D at the time was correct, it turns out that their expectations completely changed over time due to more variables and limitations being introduced as they researched the technology further, and slowly the situation melted, leading Bungie start cutting off and re-making Halo 2 into the version that was released.

Now, Dust 514 perhaps suffers from the same issue. The R&D at the time looked promising, but at the same time newer limitations and technical issues were introduced which led Dust 514 into the current state which is between being an actual tactical shooter inspired on Battlefield 2142 to what the design documents sitting on some desks at CCP say.

So, bottom line, the trailer was done with expectations of the end product before the technology that was aimed at the time met up with a concrete wall that stopped its progress and led to a short stagnation and in turn that stagnation led to what Dust 514 is now and to the future of Dust 514.

ha, so basically...concept video.

One thing that really stuck out in that trailer was the phenomenal sound design. I wonder if CCP could revisit those and incorporate them into the game (especially the sounds of the MCC fired missiles)?

I'm not too worried about graphics right now. I say hold off and making it super purrty until the PS4 port. Who knows they may be able to use Carbon on PS4's without melting them.

Which I believe is why they fired the other guy and hired CCP Rogue. Let's hope that when he finally comes out from behind the curtain that he provides us with a more realistic vision.

This thread is pretty amusing with all the wrong info running around.

Dust was never developed in carbon. That trailer isn't done in carbon either, it well predates the first demos of carbon by nearly two years. IIRC at that same exact fanfest we saw that trailer we got to watch the devs play through their first barely alpha build and boy was it ugly made minecraft look like it was running on crytek. Dust has always been running off an unreal engine, in fact they got into a little squabble because they had started dev before actually licensing it. As a side now a dev now long gone once mentioned that Dust development had been taking longer than expected because all the art was being done first for unreal 4 then down scaled for unreal 3, even if true its likely that this practice has been scrapped in order to try to rectify how far off the dust dev time table has been pushed.

Anyways, Carbon showed up a few years later making its debut for the new character creator in eve and then Captain's Quarters, which was really a dry run since it was at the time planned to have World of Darkness running the carbon engine. Carbon can do some really neat character model rendering, the tech demos they gave at Fanfest were pretty damn impressive. Unfortunately, carbon is a giant resource hog, computers were dying right and left just running the tiny captain's quarters. With the Incarna debacle halting all resources in walking in stations (thus carbon development) carbon was largely scrapped. The final blow was when they quietly announced that WoD had scrapped all their carbon work and dropped the engine.

In summary Dust was never meant for Carbon and Carbon is dead, no resources at all are being devoted in fixing its problems and it will largely only exist as the current Eve character creator and tiny pointless room, any future walking in stations tech will likely never use it assuming the eve population ever lets them explore that area again.

Speculation: Any revisit to eve walking in stations would likely involve scrapping all Carbon related assets as using which ever Unreal engine that Dust is currently using to allow better interfacing walking around stations. (having 2 engines interacting in the same space would be a nightmare)